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Black Lives Matter, the Police, and the Violence!

Black Lives Matter

 

Tom and guests discuss Black Lives Matter, the Dallas police shootings, inner city violence and what can be done about it.  They discuss the root causes of inner city poverty and how that relates to the violence that we see today.  

Alex, a former NYPD cop gives his perspective about what’s going on.  Eric, a black republican from Seattle discusses what needs to change in the Black community

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The following is a text transcript of the audio.  Due to the verbatim speech and nuances it may be difficult to read.  However, it is being provided as a courtesy to the hearing impaired as well as for those who wish to move quickly on to the pertinent parts of the podcast. Transcript is at least 80% accurate. Time stamps do not match the video.

Black Lives Matter, the Police, and the Violence!

Tom: Welcome Galtstrikers this is our weekly Libertarian talk show where we discuss not only the problems of today but also the solutions. If you have questions or comments during tonight’s broadcast the call in number to get on the air is 1.347.202.0228. After you’ve connected remember to press one so that our producer will see that you want to be on the air and we can have a discussion. If you are listening on blog talk or any other site that carries a player you can also join us in our chat room at prepperbroadcasting.com. About half way down the page you will see a chat room you can put in your user name and then ask questions in the chat room as well.

So tonight for this second part of this show we are gonna talk about the Dallas shooting, the black lives movement, the police, the violence and we are gonna talk about what we can do about it. It looks like I have several callers lining up to discuss this topic and we are gonna get with each one of you so please hold on. I wanna get your opinions on what’s going on. You know the craziness and the violence with the shootings and the police shootings and the sniper that killed the police officers in Dallas. I think it is really sad tragic event. Anyway, I want to talk about some of the statistics that people throw around as it relates to these issues. I think the statistics are really skewed on both the right and the left from what I see. I don’t think they show the entire picture and I would like to see the entire picture so we can better understand what’s going on. To give an idea, ya know, the right will often give statistics for example showing they will say there are twice as many white people getting shot by cops than there are blacks. I guess that’s true, the actual numbers but I think the way they get those numbers is wrong. I think they are pulling the entire population, the entire amount of white people, and the entire amount of white people and they are substantially a lot more white people in this country so I don’t think the accurate number to understand what is going on. But then you look at the left. The left also shows their statistics that they like to throw out there and they will show for example the actual percentage of black people getting shot per capita the numbers of blacks getting shot by the police verses the number of white people getting shot by police and they’ll compare that to the percentage of population and show that the percentage of black people getting shot by police is much greater. Yet again, I think that is an inaccurate number I don’t think it shows the actual true problem that we’re looking at.

What I would like to see is I don’t think this is an issue about race. I think this an issue about socioeconomic status. For example I would like to see stats that show the number of white people and the number of black people in the urban city areas that have the high crime rates. The percentage of white people living in those areas and the percentage of black people living in those areas that are being shot by police officers. Then I would like to look at a separate list of statistics that show the suburban areas, the more affluent areas where there is a smaller number of black people and a greater number of white people in those areas and see what those percentages work out to be. I’d like to see those separated because I think what you would find is in the high crime urban areas, I think you’re gonna find that the amount of crime- -you know imagine in those areas there are a lot less white people and a lot more black people- – I think in those areas that you’re gonna find that the percentage of people committing crimes, being arrested, being shot by police, I think you’re gonna find that that is proportionate with the number of people showing that it’s not a race thing but an issue with location where they live, the crime rates where they live, the poverty rates where they live. I think that’s what you’re gonna find. Same thing when you go to the suburban area, the more affluent areas where there are a lot fewer black people living there, a lot more white people living there. They’re all affluent, the black people are affluent, the white people are affluent I think you’re gonna find that the numbers of black people being arrested, being shot etc. as well as the number of white people in those areas I think you’re gonna find out that it’s not on racial lines. But I think what you’re gonna find is these two groups of people split by socioeconomic status in the poor community verses the rich communities, the affluent communities I think that is where you’re gonna find the divide. You’re gonna find all of the crime in the shootings and the arrest happen in those poor areas verses the wealthier areas. There’s a lot of reasons for that. I think the biggest reason comes from opportunity or lack of opportunity. I think that what we have, in the poor communities, I’ve always learned as a kid, my grandparents always told me Idle hands are the devils work shop and I think if you don’t have the opportunity, if you’re not working, if you don’t have a good job then you’re going to run into a lot more problems. Whereas if you’re working and you’ve got a career you’re going to be focused on that rather than go out and robbing the local liquor store. So anyway before we get to our guest I have a couple more things I want to go over and why I think that this is the way it is. Why I think urban areas are being totally neglected for opportunity and why we have the poverty and the crime rates that we do.

Now what I am going to say might sound a little racist at first but when you follow me through you’re going to understand the observations that I made okay. I’m not a statistician, I’m not a historian, and I’m not a political scientist but I am extremely observant. I drive a truck for a living. I go to ALL of these cities in America, to all of these major cities, I go to all of the states except for Hawaii and Alaska. I go to all 48 states. I’ve been doing this for 16 years now. There is something very common that I’ve noticed about most of these cities. At first I thought maybe it’s just a racial bias and maybe I am racist and I didn’t realize it but what I noticed, and maybe I’m just seeing something that’s not really there. But what I noticed going through all these town and cities is all of them, there’s most of these big cities have their own Martin Luther King Jr Blvd ok. And what I noticed is common about all these Martin Luther King Jr Blvd. is the amount of crime that are on all of these streets. You go to all these streets and there is the strip malls with the liquor store and the pawn shops and the signs for the bail bondsman and the signs for the divorce lawyers and there’s the welfare office and then there’s the prostitutes in the street. And then there’s the drug pusher on the street and they’re not all black. There’s white to doing the same thing but I’m thinking why is it that we have these huge crime rates on all these streets named Martin Luther King Jr Blvd? I mean he was leader of the civil rights movement. He would be rolling in his grave if it were this and I’m thinking is this a racial bias or is there really something to this? I did a little research and I googled this and what I came with is I am not the only one that saw this ok. If ya’ll are familiar with Chris Rock he had a joke ok and the joke goes like this. If a friend calls you on the phone says they’re lost on Martin Luther King JR Blvd and they want to know what they should do he says the best response is to run. Ya know, cause of the crime. This is what Chris Rock said in a joke. So I thought really? This is the thing? Why is this? I wanted to know why. Why is it that these streets named that way have a high crime rate in urban areas? So I did a little research and there was a college student that researched this topic and come to find out what it is is a planning issue. It’s a city zoning and planning issue. What comes first the chicken or the egg? Was it first named Martin Luther King Jr Blvd and then ended up having a lot of crime on that? Did they have crime because it was named that or did it already have high crime rate? The fact is it already had a lot of crime rate in these cities and areas with streets that are named that way and it’s kind of like, I don’t know what you wanna call it, a Band-Aid solution. A magic silver bullet that the city planners decided to do. They decided to start naming these streets after Martin Luther King Blvd. in an attempt to empower the black citizens in that area. Empower them and give them hope. But the problem is I don’t think they are addressing the real situation. I think they were addressing the real issues that cause the high crime and the racial division in those areas. I don’t think they were doing that I think they’re doing a Band-Aid by naming these streets rather than what they should of did is improve those cities problems and then take the streets that have become successful in those communities and name that street Martin Luther King JR Blvd.  Where the parts of the city where the races did come together and did solve their problems and name that after Martin Luther King Jr. I think that’s what should of happened but then I look at who these city planners, I’m gonna say, are democrats. They’re Democrat parties and you look at all the high crime areas of all of these cities and they are all Democrat mayors and Democrat council. So yes, my beef is with the Democratic Party also with the Republican Party but for different reason. But you look at the Democratic Party since the beginning of their inception under Andrew Jackson who happened to be a slave holder. Happened to be a slave owner. Also responsible for the Trail of Tears, forced relocation of Native Americans to Oklahoma. Also the Democratic Party is the party of slavery. The Democratic Party was a part of the Ku Klux Klan. The Democratic Party was part of segregation, the party of Jim Crow Laws. The Democratic Party was a party of the IRS. The Democratic Party is a party of the Federal Reserve. The Democratic Party all under Woodrow Wilson ok. The Democratic Party under Franklin Roosevelt. The Party of social Security and the party of Japanese Internment camps. So you look all throughout history, every dark period of our own history, our own country, period of oppression has all been under Democratic Rule ok and Democratic Presidents. That’s a problem I see and then people wonder, “Well how did this, yeah ok, that’s the way the Democrats were back then and now they’re here trying to help the poor out in these areas”. And I go, “No, they’re not there to help minorities. They never have been. They never have been there to help minorities’. You go back to the 1930’s and there is a guy and I’m gonna give you his name and you can look up this guy, let me go back to here. This happened in the 1930’s, a Democrat influential Democrat named William Jennings Bryon. He blurred the party line by emphasizing the government’s role and insuring social justice through expansions of Federal Power. He wanted to grow the welfare state through federal power across the country and this was during the time of the United States winning the west as new states in the west were getting admitted into the Union. The Democrats learned a new strategy that they could crab that voting block of new people who were mostly poor, white and black and everything else. Grab that voting block by promising the welfare in the social programs and the government benefits. They learned that for the Democratic Party, this party of Oppression all throughout history could grab that voting block of all these new voters by offering them basically free stuff. That’s what it’s about. It’s about buying votes. The Republican Party they’ve always been about big business. Crooning capitalism ya know helping the railroads out, helping the utilities out as they got established country wide. As the Democrats gained control of the poor votes the Republicans realized they lost that battle and they started becoming more towards limited government. Basically they didn’t have a choice anymore because the Democrats have already won the big government part of politics.

Anyways, that’s what I’ve come up with doing research and understanding the reason why these neighborhoods in these cities have become so impoverished is because of the generational welfare they’re on. Welfare is extremely addictive and hard to get off of. It goes on generation to generation to generation and people on welfare have a very hard time moving out and getting off of that. So I think that is where the crime starts and that’s where it fosters and then goes on from there you get into a vicious cycle between minorities and the police that are trying to control that crime and it just grows and it spirals into what we have.

Anyways, we’ve got several callers on the air. I’m gonna start bringing callers on and get your opinions on what you think has caused the situation that we’re in and why we have such an issue of division still to this day between blacks and whites and the police. So first I’m gonna bring on Alex. Alex, you’re on the air. How are you doing?

Alex: How you doing? I’m on thank you. Ok as far as you talking about making big promises to the disadvantaged, especially to minorities, the Democratic Party has had a specific strategy since the 1930’s. The idea is you promise them a lot, give them a little, and make em want more. Don’t give them the opportunity to gain more of what they want. Keep them dependent and they will always vote for you. That’s the way the Democratic Party is doing things now. As far as police brutality or the problems between the police and blacks in the inner cities- – I was a new York city cop for 16 years and I spent a lot of time ducking bullets and fighting in black outs and its something that happens with mob mentality. You get an agitator in there which the Democratic Party loves to do, a professional who knows how to stir up some people. Then he stirs up more people and it becomes like a virus and it grows and it grows and it grows and the people who start participating in it they actually aren’t even thinking. They are just rioting because everybody else is and they want to do it to. So that is why the Democratic Party is basically in the large cities, on the two cost they rule the roost and it’s because they have set that up for so many years that now it’s just become an endemic thing, its wrote. They do it just without having to think about it and if you’ll notice the big politicians in Washington most of them they’ve gotten, they work their way up in the Democratic Party and a lot of them are either from the east or the west coast and that’s the way they are working. They are going to continue to do that until finally we wake up ok. That is those of us who want limited government, who want the liberties that the founding fathers gave to us and unless we start agitating for that unless we start working towards it and talking to the people that think the Democrats are the ones who have all the answers, unless we start convincing these people we are gonna get nowhere. We have been on a very slippery slope for about 40 years and if Hillary Clinton gets elected president we are gonna go over that cliff.

Tom: So during your time as being a police officer in New York City were you primarily patrolling in areas where people were you know, in poor areas and poor neighborhoods. Or were you in more affluent neighborhoods or both?

Alex: Most of the time I spent my time in New York city in the Latin Ghettos and  I am Porte Rican and since I speak the language that is where they like to have me I spent myself in Spanish Harlem or the south Bronx. Every now and then I got to work in an affluent area but it was rare. So that’s why I spent most of my time in those areas.

Tom: So you know the left likes to always say that minorities are being disproportionately ya know arrested for crimes and victims of police brutality and my argument is I don’t think it’s based on race. I think it’s based on socioeconomic status. You know more often happening in poor neighborhoods than affluent neighborhoods. That if you were to do the statistics based on population in a particular affluency or lack of, like in a poor neighborhood you’re gonna find that in your experience would you find that even being in a Latino- – you said Latino or was it Porte Rican?

Alex: Well, that’s what a Porte Rican is Latino just like a Dominican and so on and so forth.

Tom: So I’m sure you probably didn’t have a lot of black people there and probably not a lot of white people there but out of the white population that was there did  you find in some of those ghetto areas did you find that the numbers were pretty much proportionate for the ones that got arrested with the actual population. So if you have 10% of the people are white is it 10% of the white people also being arrested and you know is the amount of arrest in crimes proportionate for the amount of race in that area.

Alex: No and I’ll tell you why. There were very few whites in these ghettos. There was also a large black population. Ok. Those two areas very large proportion of Latinos and a large proportion of blacks too and very few whites. In fact most of them in the ghettos now once upon a time they were all Irish neighborhoods and over the years the Latinos started moving in and blacks started moving in because they had no place else to go and those areas were not expensive to live in. Ok. As far as crime in those areas almost all the crime was committed by blacks or Latinos but that’s because that’s where they lived and most of the victims were black or Latinos.

Tom: Well yeah that’s what I’m getting out about proportionate numbers. So let’s say in an area, I don’t know what, you said very few whites but I don’t know what the actual percentage is. Let’s say it’s one percent of the population is white, maybe 60% is Latino and 39% black, and then let’s say out of that population that 10% of people, 10% of people commit some sort of crime would it be also 10% of the 1% of white people, 10% of them commit crimes and 10% of the black people commit crimes and 10% of the Latinos committing crimes. You get what I’m saying about the actually percentages?

Alex: I can speak to some of that ok. One of the things I do know about is things like serious assaults with weapons and homicides and police and cop killings. As a matter of fact nationwide in the inner cities 40% of the cop killings are committed by blacks and Latino’s. The thing is only about 10% of the population of the United States is black or Latino all together. It makes 20% they are each about 10% so it’s like a disproportionate number of blacks but that’s because most of that occurs in the ghettos.

Tom: Yes. Yes. That’s what I’m getting at. That’s what I’m getting at. Most of that occurs in the ghettos where most of the crime happens is in the ghettos and the reason why the numbers of those minorities being represented is so high is because those minorities live in those areas. So what I’m getting at is that I don’t believe it’s a racial division. I believe it’s a socioeconomic division that if you were to go into an affluent neighborhood and look at the black people and Latino’s living in an affluent neighborhood they’re not out there committing crimes so I don’t think it’s a racial think I think it’s more of a geographic and socioeconomic thing of people in those areas and I think that goes back to what I said before. Idle hands are the devils workshop. If they don’t have jobs and good opportunity in those areas then they are going to seek to selling jobs or robbing the local liquor store. What’s your thoughts on it?

Alex: One of the problems with that is that you have as I mentioned before, give them a little bit but don’t give them enough so you have so many people on welfare or really working in substandard jobs or minimum wage and even less than minimum wage and the problem there is “Hey, they don’t make enough to live on”, so they have to do something. So a lot of them will go out, well maybe not a lot of them, but a pretty fair percentage who do what they have to do to put the food on the table and pay the rent and the cable bill. That – –

Tom: That goes to that the social program- –

Alex: That is exactly right. That’s what you do. You offer them a lot but only give a little. Don’t give (inaudible)

Tom: So these city planners, these city planners, I go back to the example I made of the martin Luther King JR Blvd. as they named those streets. Rather than fixing the problem in a black neighborhood they say “We’re going to empower you and name your street after a famous civil rights leader”. Rather than going in and actually fixing the problem. Rather than naming a successful neighborhood after MLK Jr. they go in and say we’re gonna name this street after your favorite civil rights leader and btw we are gonna give you a welfare check. So what I’m saying, rather than continuing with the social welfare programs and continuing pandering and buying their vote, if these leaders, not leaders but the mayors and the city council and the city planners, if they would say “Instead of putting the welfare office on this street let’s put a small business administration office on this street. Let’s encourage a trade school to move into this street. Let’s encourage a shopping center to move in here so there are jobs”. Most of the time I hear that those city planners are blocking businesses. They don’t want an office park moving in. They don’t want an industrial area moving in and providing jobs. No. They want to put a whole stretch of HUD housing complexes in. That’s what I see of those kinds of neighborhoods. I see the city planners building their voting block with the low income housing. With the social welfare places and then allowing the liquor store to build right there. Allowing the strip club to move in there and allowing the pawn shop to- – I mean I look at those strip malls like that and if you’ve been around the country you see em it’s like that in every city. You’ve got a liquor store on the same strip mall you’ve got a social welfare office in the same strip mall. You’ve got the pawn broker there. You’ve got the divorce lawyer there and you’ve got the bail bondsman. I mean come on. That is a recipe for disaster, the entire strip. It looks like that’s created to be a perpetual thing on purpose right there.

Alex: That’s the only thing they’ve got there. Go to one of those strip malls or go to a prominent intersection in one of these low income areas and your also going to find a large crowd of illegal immigrants waiting doing a shape up and people coming in saying, “Ok, I need 3 guys today. They are going to do landscaping or whatever they’re gonna do. They want three guys and that is where those people go and shape up for work. One of the things, one of the problems with that is the people that are going in there and picking these guys up to go and do the work or whatever are people from affluent neighborhoods or business owners. Most of these people unfortunately, most of these people are whites. Ok. Who have business, who have a certain amount of affluence, who want to get something done and they don’t want to pay the skilled labor that you need. Ok. So they’ll hire the illegal immigrant who will take the job away from a carpenter.

Tom: So they are contributing to the problem. Almost like they’re the drug pusher in that illegal job is a drug.

Alex: That’s what it’s like and you know they are just as much to blame for some of the problems that we’ve got as the minority or the illegal aliens that are shaping up. They come over here because they think it’s the land of plenty and it turns out to be hey man you’re gonna break your ass for God knows how long making next to nothing. Then what they do is send most of that money back to wherever they came from because their family is there and their family is starving or something like that. Ok.

Tom: And then that continues to create the racial division among the races. I gotta go to a heart break here but anyways I’d like to hold you over for the next half of the show. Just listen in and I may bring you back in a little bit later. I wanna go also to Eric and Red hawk are waiting on the line so let’s go to a break real quick.

Tom: Alright, welcome back Galtstrikers. We just listened to Alex, a police officer from New York City. We’re talking about the shooting in Dallas, the BLM movement, the police brutality and trying to get to the bottom of what’s causing all this mess. What caused it to start and why is it the way it is now and what can we as a society do as we move on forward and try to problems with the racial division. How we can bring opportunity to minorities, especially in urban areas. How can we fix the light in these urban areas and reduce the crime. Basically help the police to do their job but at the same time help minorities to get off of social welfare and into their own jobs, careers and businesses. So we are gonna go onto our next caller. I’m gonna bring Eric on. Eric how are you doing?

Eric: I’m doing alright man, I’m out here in Seattle Washington and I’d just like to start off with All Lives Matter.

Tom: Exactly. All Lives matter.

Eric: Hey now I guess what I wanna get into is two things. The first one is we’re supposed to be a melting pot. Ya know, all of us that come from all the different countries and everything and all the different walks of life. Black, white, Latino ya know all that. But you know, especially with the black and white community man we don’t even get to know each other. Basically what we do is work with each other and then we go home and socialize people like us. Black socializes with black, white socialize with white and basically it’s a deal where we get to have stereotypes to deal with and ya know some of the cops have stereotypes of what the blacks are like and you know some of the blacks with what’s going on with crime and so forth sometimes they live up to the stereotypes but basically what we have to do in America is we got to get to know each other. Not as black Eric and white Tom and all that kind of stuff. We got to know each other as people. As this is Jim and this is Bob. Not black bob or whatever.

Tom: As Americans. Get to know each other as Americans.

Eric: Exactly. We gotta break bread with each other man we need to go to dinner together. Man we need to do things go bowling together so that we have something to identify ourselves as regular people. Not that person over there. That troublemaker, that whatever. Ya know, so that’s one of the problems but the other thing is I grew up in Chicago, Illinois. When I was growing up it was kind of a gang infested area and the way that people are kind of raised in this urban area which was predominantly white, I mean black where I lived there was hardly any white flight at all. We got in they left. So what I’m talking about it was weak or strong. The way urban black kids are taught is you’re either weak or strong and there is no negotiation. People either bow down to you or you bow down to them. It’s a winner and it’s a loser. There is no middle ground, there is no negotiation so what happens is you get a lot of people with this attitude and police officers are put in a position of power. They are authority figures over me and you but when they come across black, especially young black individuals, those people are thinking along that strong or weak. So I’m not gonna let the cop be the boss over me. So I’m not gonna obey him. He tells me to get down on the ground; I’m not getting down on the ground. I’ll do what I want to do and then you find in most of these incidences that are going on the black kids are disobeying and then you got a cop that’s really jumpy because you know, he’s wondering if he’s going to go home to his kids at night, his family. So the bottom line is you have a jumpy cop and a kid that will not obey a simply order like get down on the ground. Now you got a situation where there is bloodshed and you got some cop that has to do what the police manual will tell him to do but most of black America is not going to look at that. They’re not going to look at, you know what, the police manual is there to protect all of us because if you have someone that escalates the situation you have to have a way of protecting not only yourself as an officer but protecting the public. They don’t get that. Those things can escalate from selling CD’s to where now it’s a situation where there is possible assault on a police officer and you have to protect the public. So I may have to use deadly force to subdue you when first it was a crime of just selling illegal cigarettes. That’s basically what I have to say about that.

Tom: I want to get your opinion on a couple of things. First thing you know – – how we change the mindset of minorities and blacks, especially in these areas like what you’re saying where these kids want to be so tough to stand up to the police. How can we go about changing their mindset to understand hey the police is here to help everybody but the minute you start doing something that could possibly endanger others as well as the officer and that causes that to escalate. How can we show them to respect the police a little bit and you’re going to be cool. Just like for example after the Dallas shooting the social media was just going berserk spreading this picture Mark who was accused of carrying the AR15 at the protest? Naming him as a suspect and when he caught wind of that he went and turned himself into the police and turned himself in and said, ‘Hey, what can me and my brother do to help? What can we do to help here”? I think if people followed that approach I don’t think there would be a problem open carrying , or any of that if people would respect the police and ya know, get down when they are told to get down. I don’t think that we would have the problem that we do and I don’t think police would keep escalating it as well. How do we change people’s mindset?

Eric: I think it has to start with what I talked about before ok. There are a lot of black people in these areas that really, they have a feeling that white people really don’t listen to them. You know and it’s a lot of cases where black people don’t listen to white people. You know, they just feel like white people are gonna be racist but a lot of times, and I’m a black republican ok? I find that sometimes I can be in a chat room, or on face book and I can make a statement about black this or that and how we feel like we are disenfranchised like you know we need to be more involved. I just kind of feel like the white participants just glaze over it. So I think that we have to find a way for white people on both sides Democrat and republican to engage black people and let them know, “Hey, we care what you say,” Now I don’t go for all this Black Lives Matter stuff talking about ,”Because you’re black police officers are hunting you down”. Man I’ve cooperated with police that have stopped me and I have a master’s degree in political science, I had a police stop me, lay me over a car and he thought I was suspect in a robbery but because my father taught me to be respectful to police I respected him, I respected his position, I knew that he was doing his job. He had no way of knowing I had a master’s degree so I didn’t get insulted by that. I let him do what he had to do and once he found out what my personality was he let me go. But basically I think it starts with reaching out, somehow find a way to reach out to the black community so they can trust you and really feel like what you’re saying, like I said not the black lives matter garbage, but just on a regular basis when they say things should be this way. Well actually listen to what their saying and actually say you know that is valuable. Instead of trying to correct them all the time and say,” No, what you mean by this is I’ll spoon feed you this and I’ll let you know I’ll take care of you.”

You see black people don’t need to be taken care of. Just like you pointed out in your program, it said, “Oh well, you know, the Democrats have been giving em a little taste of something and the vote comes automatically and they’re being taken care of.” No. we have to get to a point where we are able to take care of ourselves. Not separate from the rest of society but take care of ourselves and there is a lot of white people out there that can help us do that but they got to get to know us as people. Not that stereotype. We gotta get to know you as people and not a stereotype.

Tom: I think, I think uhm ya know, I think white people do hear. I think that white people do hear the problems that black people are bringing up but I think what it comes down to is ok I know about this so what do we do about it? So I think that’s where a lot of white people are stuck at and it’s like, I don’t know how to fix your problems. I really don’t. The Democrats are giving you free welfare and food stamps and I can’t put an end to that and if I try to openly oppose that then I sound like the bad guy. I would like to see more minorities start their own businesses and get college educations and get careers. Personally the way I am doing it with this radio show, I don’t know if you’re listening to the first half, we’re bringing on different business owners and different entrepreneurs and having them tell their story about how it can be done. I think what we need to do, what white folks and successful folks, people in the (inaudible) need to do is be mentors to the people in the poor communities. Not just minorities but anybody in the poor community and be mentors to them and say, “This is how I became successful. This is how you can become successful too. You can do it.” But that’s great, I want to do that but how can we do that when at the same time the Democrats are saying, “We’re here to save you. The white man is holding you down and you need to turn to government to help. Come sign up for welfare now and then give them just enough to get by”. I don’t know how to solve that problem and I think that’s a conundrum that other white people are finding themselves at. It’s like I don’t know what to do.

Eric: I don’t either and you know it would be nice if somehow if white people could get a hold of a rational element down in the ghetto where they could begin to come up with a strategy to do this. Because I don’t have the panacea to do that. You know, I don’t know exactly how to do that. I wish I did. I know I’m more of a joke because most black people find out that I’m a republican, it’s like I got three heads and I’m a leper because, they’re like “Why you do that? Why are you doing that?” Because I’ve found out that when I looked at my life and what I believed in morally it matched up more with the republican party than the democrat party and I’m not just gonna go along with the show for goodies and I don’t like the idea just holding my hand and telling me what to do but getting back to the point, I think somehow the white people and the affluent black people that acclimated need to go down with that message of, “This is how we done that.” But having an avenue to get in otherwise if you don’t have that avenue you just get tuned out. They don’t even listen to you and brothers like me – –

Tom: I think you’re on to something here. If somehow successful black people, successful white affluent people can somehow connect with leaders in these poor communities, in these ghetto communities can somehow connect with somebody that’s got an open mind and wants to hear and form up some sort of meetup group in a community that definitely has to be a grass roots thing. Then start having weekly, weekly success story meet ups. Kind of like I did on the show but have actual physical meetups in a building somewhere where people in that community can come and sit down and listen kind of like a mentor program. I’m gonna teach you how to be successful. I’m not gonna charge anything for it because I know you can’t afford it but I want to show you how you can do it on your own. I think it would be great- –

Eric: Ok. One more thing. Let me give ya one more thing. Just kind of an example. Ok. When I was growing up in Chicago ya know, I was growing up and there was just crime going on all over the place it was the Elba Cos, the Devils disciples, the Black Peps only trying to recruit us and all this other kind of stuff. But basically I lived that for like the last 19, well from 13-19 years old I lived that kind of life and  I thought that was what the world was all about. This concrete jungle, bullets flying all over the place. Going to school and getting into fights, getting beat up and all this other kind of stuff and then I went away to college and I found out how the rest of society lived and once I found out how they were living, the peace and tranquility that’s out there my view point changed and all of a sudden it was like, “Wow! You mean we don’t have to have the bullets flying? We don’t have to fight all the time? We don’t have to have people robbing you all the time? Hey this is great. I want some of this.” Do the bottom line is that if you can get those groups together, if you can get in there and if you can go ahead and make some kind of exposure to what the other side looks like then you can undermine that Democratic Party of handouts and so forth. You can turn it around over night because these people are gonna start to see, “Hey, this is great. Nobody told me about this. I’m in on this program.” But it has to get in with somebody that you know, they can trust you and then they can go ahead and win the trust of the people in the community. The Democrats will be on the way out because I’m telling you; life outside of the ghetto is great man. It’s great man.

Tom: I know

Eric: It’s great.

Tom: Hey I appreciate it Eric. I want to bring Red Hawk on here to get his opinion. Eric if you could, stay on the line and also appreciate it if you’d send me an email, Alex as well. I’d like both of you guys to send me an email cause I’d like to bring both of you on for a future show as well. I want to go to Red Hawk and get his thoughts. I may come back to you in a minute if I have time but let’s talk to Red Hawk real quick. Red Hawk how ya doing?

Red Hawk: Oh pretty good, pretty good. A little short on time tonight bro. Anyways, I hear a lot of talking about what’s going on in the ghettos and the hoods and all that kind of stuff and some of the endemic problems in the racism. You guys have covered a lot of ground tonight. The one thing, since I am kind of short on time here ok, were not looking at groups and people that are causing some of this ok. You’ve got reportedly on a number of different fronts. You’ve got George Soros reportedly putting out ads and paying demonstrators ok. You’ve got Obama out there slamming police officers for killing black men and inciting more stuff. You’ve got Lewis Farah Khan out there going full hog, it’s out there on YouTube, “Go out there and kill the man”. And you’ve got Jesse Jackson doing the same thing. Personally I think whatever ray is missing here is the end game. I think there is an end game here not to go conspiracy theory here but I think there is an end game.

Tom: I’ll put my conspiracy hat on here and I really think that they do want to push us to a point of Martial Law and I don’t think that is a conspiracy of Obama wanting to become a dictator but I do think the Democratic party under people like George Soros and them that are getting behind and funding these things, I think they really do want to disrupt the democratic process. I do think they eventually they want to bring us under Martial Law of some sort.

Red Hawk: And you’ve got the justice department refusing to go after like right down there in Texas you’ve got the new Black Panther Party with a video out there holding AR15’s and assault weapons threatening the cops in Texas ok. You know, you’ve got all the stuff on twitter and everything with the Black Lives matter threatening you know people and so forth. You look at these cop killers and half of them have gone on FACEBOOK for crying out loud, but out there on face book their hatred for cops. Pictures of them holding and so forth. We’ve got to get a handle on it. (Inaudible) The end game here. It (inaudible) As I said, I hate to go all conspiracy theory or anything like that ok but if anybody is looking back 30 or 40 years like one of the other people mentioned ok, one of the former cops here, he knows. He knows about the cameras on the streets in New York City. I noticed the first article I ever saw (inaudible)

Tom: Yeah hey Red Hawk your phone is cutting out real bad but I do want to go back to Alex again and get his opinion on what both you and Eric said, especially what Eric had to say. Alex, are you still there?

Alex: Yup, I’m still here. I agree completely with the gentleman that was just speaking just before it went out. Eric, when you were saying you got out of high school and you went to college and found out it was a completely different world and you know, how can we get people to be able to do that more? I absolutely agree with you, and I think there are some venues, some avenues you could take. Like for instance if you’re in school, if the school happens to be well integrated and not either completely black or completely white or mostly Latino or something like that. What you can do is, you’ll find out that the kids, the students in the classrooms, a lot of them are willing to make friends with anybody that happens to feel the same way they do or that they like the person or the person is helpful or something like that. Either way, whatever way it goes. That’s one of things you can do and the parents of these students they have to help their children to go along with that kind of relationship with other people. Sometimes it’s difficult, and they might not be able to do anything about that but you’ve gotta try. Give them that particular hook to get into being able to be friends with other races or other ethnicities ok. That was something that, the other place that I think of the most, your church. It is one of the most important places where you can have people of other races, people of other ethnic groups come together and socialize and develop friendships and it’s an extremely important way to get these things done.

Tom: Yeah. I want to go back to Red Hawk. We’ve only got one minute left here. Just some last words. You still there?

Red Hawk: Yeah I’m here.

Tom: Yeah any last words? We’ve only got a minute left.

Red Hawk: Ok. Yeah you know I think it begins with the parents. You have to. You have to just teach your kids the value of everybody. You can’t discount anybody you’ve got to let them know that everybody is equal and should be listened to. It shouldn’t be a situation where you’re teaching, oh you know those people are just kind of low rent or those people are just kind of you know not up to par with us. You have to just really express that people are equal. Just like martin Luther King said, “The content of a person’s character is important.”

Tom: Very good point. Like I said, Alex, Eric I would appreciate if you both could send me a quick email at americanprepper@yahoo.com just so I can keep in touch with you guys. Really good callers and Id like to get you on a future show somewhere later down the road. Anyways, I want to thank everyone that called in to listen to this show. I appreciate it. I think it’s a really good topic. Sorry we didn’t have enough time to delve into it some more. I want to mention that what I did in the last show is there is a new show starting next Friday. Its called The Prepping Academy Fridays at 6 P.M. Specific and that’s on Fridays. The host of the show is Forest Garvin former US Air Force Airman. He is also a survivor instructor, NRA Instructor, HAM instructor and much more. Also, tune in every night at 6 P.M. on prepperbroadcasting.com. It’s a lot of great shows. Catch you guys next weekend.

Caller: Ok. Have a good one!

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